How to Tell Your Family Member Youre Suicidal
What happens if you tell a physician that yous're suicidal?
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Just that actually.
When a doctor asks you whether yous've had thoughts nearly actually hurting yourself or if you've made any plans to and you tell them you have, what (if anything) do they exercise?
There have been times in the past when I've wanted to talk about how I really feel just am always scared about what will happen.
Sad to hear yous are feeling so depression, it's a horrible identify to exist 
From personal experience, they ask you lot if you are serious, decide yous arn't (regardless) offer you anti-D's, or a modify of drugs, or a higher dose and tell you lot to come up dorsum in a fortnight. You leave slightly reeling and wonder how the hell you will make it through a fortnight.
Close friend makes frequent suicide attempts and very serious self harm, they just patch her up and send her on her manner to practise it all again.
Is there anyone irl you tin can talk to? Or just conversation on here 
Really?
So if someone said that they were going to overdose on something on x day at x time they wouldn't really practise anything almost information technology?
Makes you wonder why they even ask that question...
They prescribe drugs and transport you to counselling.
depends on the GP I expect
Mine would say 'well I'm not going to give you ABs for that' and give me a furious look for wasting her time on my trivial whingeings, and mutter something about information technology being normal at my age and have I idea about losing weight and it beingness something I'll only have to live with. Or not.
Judging on every other time I've seen her about annihilation, which is why I keep it to myself.
If I actually wanted to talk to someone, I would find a counsellor before I spoke with my GP. Actually I would change GP, I'g thinking about information technology.
If you lot feel y'all can talk to your GP and they would be sympathetic, possibly start with request to see a counsellor just be warned, the waiting list could be long. If you tin afford it, seek a individual counsellor and go from in that location, they might be able to help yous broach the subject with your GP. At least that'due south what I would exercise - I'm not qualified in anything at all and this postal service is based entirely on having delicate mental wellness and a fucking awful GP.
My experience seems quite different. My local Mental Health Team would swoop into activity immediately, I'd take a Crunch team assessment same twenty-four hours, and so either go under Home Treatment Squad (daily visits at abode) or be admitted to hospital.
Either way I'd see the psychiatrist within a day or so for medication review. As a parent, they'd too do a referral to Social Services.
I live in Northamptonshire.
Fuck all. Utterly pointless ime.
Jesus, I was sent dwelling from the hospital after 2 suicide attempts with nothing. Start one a referral to my Comminity Psychiatric Nurse and a long await to see a psychologist, second one nada. Merely I wasn't a mum then, I was a severely depressed young lady with no support system (imo a high risk). I would like to remember that they'd do more than at present but I did get back to my Drs with low, not suicidal, when I was a mum he gave me more than tablets and told me to do a CBT course online. I know they put a lot of coin into advertising talking near mental health, I kind of wish they'd use that for helping people at run a risk.
I recollect it quite often depends on your history. if y'all've got no history of mental health issues then you'd probably be offered anti-ds, possibly counselling and sent on your way.
If you're known to the mental health team then they tend to be a flake more than proactive - aforementioned day appt at the CMHT, same 24-hour interval appt with the crunch team or even hospital depending on your history. That kind of intervention comes from existence "in the system" for years though IME.
Oh and I'm a mum and have not had any social services interest always.
The thing is, someone saying, "I'm suicidal" can mean very different things, depending on the person'due south personality, history and circumstances.
So whatsoever medic who hears that will exist doing a basic mental country assessment to try and become an idea of how serious you are and your level of adventure - some people will be prone to dramatic moodswings and emotional statements but don't nowadays any real risk, whereas others can be very understated and not-dramatic, but be very urgently at risk.
They are looking for:
Caste of suicidal intent
Presence of a plan and likely lethality
Admission to means to bear out the plan
They will want to be as certain equally they tin can be that you are safe, whether that involves a chat with y'all, referral to a psychiatrist, CMHT or crunch squad, emergency PRN medication, or firsthand access to hospital. Obviously they won't get it right all of the time, only that'southward the kind of decision-making process that will exist going on.
I take had mental wellness problems for well over twenty years, so have a long history. I have turned up at my gp's hysterical, sobbing, desperate, pleading for assist earlier I do something.
They have referred me to counselling with 12 month waiting lists 
I accept never had access to the crisis team from the GP or from A&E, only on belch from hospital equally an in-patient or through a team while being seen as an outpatient.
Message withdrawn at poster's request.
Very varied responses from the unlike medics involved then 
. As has been well said by other posters it really boils downwardly to an cess of how you are presenting, your support network and the opinion of the medics concerned.
Thoughts most suicide are quite common and so I would not be agape of discussing them with my GP (or psychiatrist). Sometimes these thoughts kickoff to go like the elephant in the room. I get quite obsessive about them if I don't share, and they are like a rock round my neck dragging me down.
Fortunately, I have a groovy GP who recognizes that a lot of depressives have suicidal thoughts (and plans) merely don't act on them. I certainly do and, for the (most) part, my suicidal thoughts are more of a potential, time to come escape route (which I find comforting to take) rather than something I am going to exercise right now.
Toad are y'all asking because you are agape you might be hospitalized, or are afraid because you won't be and deep down that is what you want?
When I outset went to the GP and said I couldn't stop thinking about killing myself, he took me very seriously. He prescribed a small corporeality of diazepam to help and made a referral to the local crisis squad. They called me that solar day and asked if I could keep myself prophylactic. I said I could that 24-hour interval, so I had an appointment with them the following mean solar day where they assessed me and put in visits and assist till I was over the worst.
NotAJammyDodger I actually don't experience suicidal correct now. Yet I have done in the by but I have always been too scared to admit it to anyone in example I'chiliad hospitalized.
On the other hand when I have felt really suicidal I have wanted to talk to someone about information technology but have e'er been too scared to. When my GP would ask me if I had whatever thoughts about hurting myself I would always downplay information technology then it didn't sound every bit bad as what it was.
It'south the same with all the counsellors I've had. Everyone I've seen has made me sign a form that says that confidentiality will be broken if you acknowledge to being actively suicidal (not those exact words obviously). So I've ever been scared to tell them when information technology happens and so simply like with my GP, I downplay it.
Toads - you have to work quite hard to be hospitalised, and even harder to be admitted confronting your will.
Suicidal thoughts are really non uncommon, GPs and other MH professionals volition not overreact to y'all maxim you feel suicidal, just information technology is important that people know how you lot feel in guild to get you the best help.
IME they work actually difficult to involve you in discussions about what you need - the scenario where people pile in and make choices for you against your will is really not the reality. They can intermission confidentiality, but again they will not IME do it backside your dorsum or without discussing information technology with you. Obviously it will depend whether you are talking well-nigh having occasional intrusive thoughts nigh suicide simply no specific program, or whether you are actively suicidal and have access to ways and the intention to carry it out.
Breaking confidentiality in practise should mean having a long discussion with yous almost how they need to keep you safe, making appointments for the crisis team to visit you at home, giving you PRN medication, phoning your GP to put a flag on your notes to ensure that yous can get an apointment any time yous need i, possibly asking to speak to other family members if appropriate to ensure that y'all're prophylactic.
Reading other people's experiences I may have been lucky, but I would liken it to interventions in childbirth - you may not accept started out wanting a ventouse or epidural or whatsoever, but there may come a point where you need these things, and as long as it's explained to you and y'all experience respected and consulted, information technology doesn't take to be an overwhelmingly bad experience.
You wouldn't be admitted s mhse Maytree foundation are a good source of support if you are in a genuinely suicidal crisis, or preferably before. Google and phone them.
Best wishes to you.
Then if they ask yous if yous've had any thoughts about hurting yourself and you answer "yes" they won't then have yous hospitalised.
Good to know.
No they won't. With as few beds every bit in that location are y'all have to be very, very unwell earlier hospital is recommended. Having thoughts of suicide generally doesn't fall into that category.
"So if they ask y'all if yous've had any thoughts about hurting yourself and yous answer "yeah" they won't then take you lot hospitalised."
No, actually really not. Bold you have a vaguely competent MH professional, answering 'aye' to this question volition lead into a chat in which they tactfully try to plant the nature of your thoughts, what triggers them, whether yous have any plans to act on them, and generally try to assess how much of a chance y'all present.
Obviously if you are sitting at that place proverb that you lot have fabricated detailed plans, accept access to XYZ lethal ways of killing yourself and are intending to leave the consultation and put the plans into exercise then there will probably come up a point where the options you are being offered are pretty much express to 'come with me to A&E now' or 'wait here with a cup of tea until nosotros tin can take you direct to the crunch squad for urgent assessment'.
Crisis Team and A&E assessments also more often than not take the form of people talking to y'all for a long time, rather than annihilation more dramatic. Cups of tea will also be involved. It's all very British, and generally at some bespeak in the procedure y'all do start to feel somewhat less bloodcurdling.
Don't let fearfulness of dramatic consequences put you off getting the aid you need, it really isn't like that.
I feel hard washed by at present as I've never been offered a cup of tea! 
Depends if your high adventure. If your probable to comport information technology out expect intervention. If you just feel like you actually could and then hopefully support, empathy and a follow up date.
To be fair at that place's not a lot anyone can do with a ten min engagement max!
I have an amazing GP who at my everyman called me the next few days but a minute or and then to meet how I was doing. Information technology made all the difference to me.
You should definitely talk well-nigh it.
You will non be hospitalised automatically
Information technology might help a lot to talk nigh it.
It is a actually common experience to have suicidal thoughts when depressed. It could vary from thinking that life is not worthwhile and wishing to be out of it sometimes but recognising things that would end you to having a formulated plan that y'all volition deport out to feeling really drastic and interim without much thought.
The Dr should explore your feelings sensitively with yous including how you could keep yourself safe and a crisis plan if you feel yous cannot.
The plan could vary from just having regular back up from the GP, meds, counselling, CMHT, crunch team or admission as a last resort. It actually depends on the whole situation. It is not one size fits all.
Hi Toads totally agree with recent comments from other posters. You need to talk virtually it. It is really common to have suicidal thoughts. Sharing your pain will assistance. Keeping it bottled up inside volition only increment your anxiety. Best wishes
Information technology is important to talk over it, but you need the correct person to mind
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